tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post5306773443338722680..comments2023-10-19T07:25:50.728-07:00Comments on Cover(ed) Girl: Quranist Belief: the Myths and the RealitiesHeatherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17017554278813071029noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-63700916815873747682016-11-28T10:06:44.347-08:002016-11-28T10:06:44.347-08:00Not a khalifa-style submitter but the submitters d...Not a khalifa-style submitter but the submitters dont believe rashad was a prophet , they believe that muhammad was the last prophet and rashad is just regarded as a messengerGilgameshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14167424482732613573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-46889694675980667562014-08-12T18:55:32.322-07:002014-08-12T18:55:32.322-07:00Quran is complete. no doubt. you said you don'...Quran is complete. no doubt. you said you don't reject him, but you reject his sayings and doings. even muslims who follow hadiths don't even getting near to "worshiping" him. no! never. YOU TOTALLY MISUNDERSTAND. WE MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN ONE GOD. We have faith in His onenessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-84067506998066647522014-03-18T22:10:13.086-07:002014-03-18T22:10:13.086-07:00The Quran says of itself that it is complete,detai...The Quran says of itself that it is complete,detailed and nothing short of a miracle. It stands on it's own! Period.Khalil Sharifnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-77862748035076702962014-02-23T21:11:42.627-08:002014-02-23T21:11:42.627-08:00I'm not certain what you mean by the term '...I'm not certain what you mean by the term 'Quranic Christian'. <br /><br />By saying that this is someone who reads the other scriptures mentioned by the Qur'an (the Torah and the Gospels) in the light of the Qur'anic interpretation of these messages, if seems to imply, at least to me, the belief that the Qur'an has the correct/superior claim over these other messages in their extant forms. In which case if you believe that the Qur'an is from God, through His messenger Muhammed then you should be/are a Muslim.<br /><br />One cannot be a Christian in the commonly held definition of the term and also believe in the message of the Qur'an. The two clash - most obviously and importantly over the deity of Jesus.<br /><br />If you are saying that this person is a Christian in the manner of a follower of Jesus as he is portrayed in the Qur'an then you would still be a Muslim as the Qur'an is clear that Jesus' message is the same as Muhammad's and all the other prophets.Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09002997517784638068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-30201555691865034602014-02-23T20:51:40.630-08:002014-02-23T20:51:40.630-08:00Salams, Anon. You're right, but "Quranist...Salams, Anon. You're right, but "Quranist" isn't a sect. It simply describes the approach we take. It allows people to have a keyword to search for - I studied Islam for a year and a half before finding out about this approach to Islam. I'd never heard of it. Knowing that there was a word for what I believed was the right interpretation of Islam would have been a HUGE help to me. I hope you'll check out the Quranists Network TV channel on YouTube. There's a great series of videos from the 2012 Quranist Winter Conference called "Why Quranist Islam?" that elaborates this a bit better than I can.Heathernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-26448843903336844112014-02-23T20:48:13.545-08:002014-02-23T20:48:13.545-08:00What do you mean? I'm sorry, I'm not quite...What do you mean? I'm sorry, I'm not quite understanding you.Heathernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-42436671245423189012014-02-23T16:48:31.030-08:002014-02-23T16:48:31.030-08:00What do the readers here think of a "Quranic ...What do the readers here think of a "Quranic Christian", meaning one who reads all of the scriptures mentioned in the Quran in light of the Quranic interpretation of those other scriptures? Please reply.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924630690230963908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-65285196874048340122014-02-23T16:41:34.237-08:002014-02-23T16:41:34.237-08:00YAY! I have finally found someone who shares my vi...YAY! I have finally found someone who shares my view on this. Thank you for expressing it publicly.Melanienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-71116841067696300862014-02-09T10:06:21.208-08:002014-02-09T10:06:21.208-08:00love your article.love your article.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13828330040998236043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-48229432495253765302013-07-15T02:52:10.052-07:002013-07-15T02:52:10.052-07:00Thank you for this post. I've seen so much ign...Thank you for this post. I've seen so much ignorance about Muslims that reject the hadith and refuse to associate Prophet Mohamed with Allah. He was a servant of Allah, like all other prophets, but I refuse to mention him in shahada. I mention Allah alone. <br /><br />My biggest issue though is the label of "Quranist" or "Quran only" or even "Reformists". The Qur'an clearly states that we should stay away from sectarianism. So "Muslim" is more than adequate for any who believe in Allah and His Revelations. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-24054140894880470512013-07-08T13:47:34.801-07:002013-07-08T13:47:34.801-07:00aslamualaikum, i am a revert but i faced alot of d...aslamualaikum, i am a revert but i faced alot of difficulties following islam in the light of hadiths. so many thanks to u for dis post. i always thot i was not fit to be a muslim bcz of my rebellious view regarding hadiths. in sha Allah my path towards Him wud be easy now spiritually.serahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14261213831234520439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-22636105954339630492013-05-15T03:24:15.570-07:002013-05-15T03:24:15.570-07:00Hello there, I am a new muslima, which is a direct...Hello there, I am a new muslima, which is a direct consequence of a year long Quran studying, and research alone. A while ago it started to bother me that many things in the hadiths sounds unreasonable to me, and in some cases the written "advice" is a clear superstition. I started to formulate this "Quran only" attitude (not knowing that I am not the only one, LOL) and not only for the reason above, but because I believe that adding any other writings to the Quran would indicate a belief that the Quran itself is not complete, not enough, or poorly written. <br />As someone stated above modesty is a cultural construct, and it does change by time and place. This is why it was wise from God not giving strict rules on clothing, fashion, colors, hair... so we don't have to adapt to one and only culture frozen in time, but it must be modest always according to the surrounding culture. I don't wear hijab, because in my country it would make me the center of attention on the streets. Would that be modesty?? My culture does not associate modesty with head dress, it is more like and extravagant thing, and I am not an extravagant type. <br />You can imagine that I am a bit isolated here this part of Europe. My beliefs cut me from the mainstream society, and Quran only attitude is not supported by my muslim brothers and sisters I met here so far. <br />I am very glad I found this blog. Thank you for posting, it gives me such strength to go on with my studies and grow. Allah almighty bless you all. AbiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-75439831889848909542013-03-20T11:13:03.943-07:002013-03-20T11:13:03.943-07:00A great e-book would be the scriptures with the to...A great e-book would be the scriptures with the torah in hebrew, the gospels in greek and the quran in arabic, inline concordance numbers and transliteration that works across the three, and unbiased modern-english translation throughout (being rendered by an understanding of the common message of all three language sections). Not perfect, but great. Unfortunately, it would have to be compiled by someone who was never taught the talmud, pauline gospels, or hadith, do as to avoid bias. So much for my generation and current religious people. Looking forward to the next generation of blank slates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-45105078719630455732013-03-20T10:59:01.944-07:002013-03-20T10:59:01.944-07:00Concerning the current cannon of the Quran, I'...Concerning the current cannon of the Quran, I'm not so certain that Al-Taubah wasn't an addition like those added in the old and new testaments. It is supposedly the last revelation but tradition prefers to close the revelations with An-Nasr, the second-to-last revelation, because it is a nice closing chapter. IMHO, if chapter 110 came before chapter 9 and chapter 9 clearly is missing the qualifying Basmala, then it seems to me that it should not be considered part of the cannon. I think it really needs to be read separately, as something Muhammad said when he was king (being lead by what he may have understood by that time), not something passed on through the angel Gabriel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-64733338778026748532013-03-20T10:40:25.011-07:002013-03-20T10:40:25.011-07:00I think the Quran is very unclear without the simu...I think the Quran is very unclear without the simultaneous reading/study of the Torah and Gospels. But when they are all taken together, the Quran makes everything one, clarifying the whole of scripture. I think the Hadith, the Talmud, and the Pauline New Testament were established by those who rejected the ever-present divine message, a message which was gradually written down as to become the whole of the scriptures mentioned in the Quran. What does that make me? A Quranist? I don't know. The Christians at least had the sense to include the Old Testament in their publication of the Bible. It seems to me that Quranists should annex the Torah and Gospels to encourage a mass transformation in Islamic perspective. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-66267229362093754782013-01-12T15:06:31.009-08:002013-01-12T15:06:31.009-08:00Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
Th...Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.<br /><br />The only advice I would give is not to separate yourself by calling yourself a Quranist. We are in fact Muslims. We believe in the true words of God and the books (Torah, Bible), we believe in his messengers (not just Mohammed, PBUH) but we do not live up to what is affected by cultural standards and the way life from that time. Just remember to stay unjudgemental, unpredjudice, and culturally open minded. KEEP UP THE STUDIES AND LOVE.<br /><br />Mashallah for this article and for being female.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-61157755237951602832013-01-12T14:55:04.097-08:002013-01-12T14:55:04.097-08:00As of trusting the Bible and Torah. You will have ...As of trusting the Bible and Torah. You will have to one drop the add-ons just as Muslims have added these other book to the Quran. What has been added? I would research the "new testament" and the verbal form of the jewish tradition.. Adding to the true word is causing so much trouble in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-83237128752634399292013-01-06T03:31:57.306-08:002013-01-06T03:31:57.306-08:00God says he preferred some prophets to others. Who...God says he preferred some prophets to others. Who are we to argue?<br /> [2:253] Such messengers, We have preferred some to others; some of them talked to God, and He raised some of them in ranks, and We gave Jesus son of Mary the proofs and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Had God wished, the people after them would not have fought after the proofs had come to them, but they disputed, some of them acknowledged and some of them did not appreciate. Had God wished they would not have fought, but God does whatever He wishes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-92201275693074922512013-01-06T03:19:19.991-08:002013-01-06T03:19:19.991-08:00Candace, be careful if that good advice that is in...Candace, be careful if that good advice that is in Hadith. It comes from the same author who brought you the advice to stone a she monkey to death if you see it committing adultery. Yes, that's an authentic Bukhari Hadith. It's like saying "I didn't like the parts where you painted Mohammad as a child molester, sex manic, angry man who gorged someones eyes out and said that women are like pigs and dogs and referred to Africans as those who's heads look like raisins. But the nice Hadith were just peachy." Hadith are from the devil. They must all be rejected. Quran has all the guidance we need. Alhamdulillah. If it ain't in Quran, it ain't of relevance to your salvation." Aamer XAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-32070006157823317242013-01-06T03:08:01.865-08:002013-01-06T03:08:01.865-08:00Well said sister. Obey Allah and his messenger doe...Well said sister. Obey Allah and his messenger does not mean obey a guy named Bukhari who compiled sayings of the prophet 300 years after his death which may or may not be true. Oh and check out Bukhari volume 1 book 4 #232. Very useful information on how Aisha is telling some man about how the prophet often had semen stains on his clothes. Read it for yourself. It's disgusting and disrespectful to Gods prophet and his wife. And this is one of MANY absurd and disrespectful "authentic" Bukhari Hadith. Is THIS how Sunnis obey the prophet? Death first! I choose Islam and reject Sunnism! We love the prophet too much to accept books which contain such filth and lies about him. Quran is the word of Allah. Hadith is the diversion of Satan. -Aamer X<br /> [22:52] We did not send before you any messenger or prophet, without having the devil interfere with his wishes. God then overrides what the devil has cast, and God secures His signs. God is Knower, Wise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-21493474113547367802012-12-01T08:18:45.214-08:002012-12-01T08:18:45.214-08:00Tonight The Jinn And Tonic Show will be discussing...Tonight The Jinn And Tonic Show will be discussing Quranism, and the claim that Hadiths cannot be trusted and contradict the Quran.<br /><br />http://www.blogtv.com/people/thejinnandtonicshow<br /><br />It's a blogTV show so you can just watch if you wish. If you would like to call into the show you need to have Skype installed and send a friend request to TheJinnAndTonicShow - please write a short statement in the friend request text stating your view on Quranism so that we can filter random friend requests.<br /><br />The show is on tonight (December 1st) at 9PM GMT. I hope so see some of you there, and please do share this message as much as you can!<br />ThisIsTheTruthUncuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07318918022319019742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-29241683822987637792012-09-01T12:03:37.568-07:002012-09-01T12:03:37.568-07:00Salam aleikum, Shaz. Glad you found me. You aren&#...Salam aleikum, Shaz. Glad you found me. You aren't alone -- I suggest that you join up with the Quranist Reverts and Converts Support Network on Facebook. I'm part of the group and it really is a fabulous resource of knowledge -- but no one there would ever tell you something and not give you some reference point in the Qur'an for their assertions regarding Islam. That's not something you can get from many people in "traditionalist" Islam, as we call it.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17017554278813071029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-51609564437284989622012-07-30T09:01:57.706-07:002012-07-30T09:01:57.706-07:00I love you all for the sake of Allah swa, this is ...I love you all for the sake of Allah swa, this is great and makes me feel like I'm not the only one... Hadith has to contradict its self because as Muslims if we don't believe there is errors in these collective Hadith then we are saying nothing less then this is also divine inspiration which defeats the purpose having one book of guidance for all of man kind... I wish we were voiced, but Allah warns us of the people of concealment... May Allah guide us all Amin.Shaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-48706422339688822382012-05-16T17:53:51.421-07:002012-05-16T17:53:51.421-07:00Salam aleikum, Hannah! Welcome to my blog! Please ...Salam aleikum, Hannah! Welcome to my blog! Please feel free to email me at tougakiryuugroupie (at) yahoo.com if you'd like to talk some more! (This is an old email address -- don't want to use my current one, as it is my full name, lol)Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17017554278813071029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29744002496111674.post-11725577395116059082012-04-27T15:49:59.921-07:002012-04-27T15:49:59.921-07:00Thank you so much for this post, Heather!
I am a ...Thank you so much for this post, Heather!<br /><br />I am a new Muslim, and I have to say, I have been really confused by all of the different sects and have been worried that I'm doing everything wrong. This makes so much sense. I totally agree with you that using the hadith as "good advice" rather than law is the way to go. I think there is much that can be learned from them, but they must be taken with a grain of salt, because they were subject to a lot of human error before they were written down and even since. A lot of the values are cultural. I also agree that hadith and sunna should be compared with the values of the Quran.<br /><br />Thank you!Hannahnoreply@blogger.com